| Knowledge to do the Job? [message #319394] |
Sun, 04 May 2008 16:55  |
 Charlie Zureki
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I know that everyone has to start somewhere. I know that systems can become more complicated than originally thought,
surprises can pop-up and tasks can be harder to accomplish because of some unforeseen circumstances.
But, why is it that some people seem to get involved in projects that are clearly way over their head?
I am not referring to anyone in particular, but I've seen so many people asking questions that they should already have the answers to, very fundamental subjects.
Are they taking these jobs to help out a friend or family member? Or, are they taking these jobs as an authority?
I don't begrudge a guy for wanting to learn or help out a friend, but, are they hurting the industry?
Not angry, just wondering.
Hammer
Be prepared, you'll need it!
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 Re: Knowledge to do the Job? [message #319405 is a reply to message #319394 ] |
Sun, 04 May 2008 17:18  |
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Ivan Beaver
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| Charlie Zureki wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 17:55 |
But, why is it that some people seem to get involved in projects that are clearly way over their head?
I am not referring to anyone in particular, but I've seen so many people asking questions that they should already have the answers to, very fundamental subjects.
Are they taking these jobs to help out a friend or family member? Or, are they taking these jobs as an authority?
I don't begrudge a guy for wanting to learn or help out a friend, but, are they hurting the industry?
Not angry, just wondering.
Hammer
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YES! Many people think audio is easy, and in many cases it is, but doing a GOOD job for a large crowd is a whole different set of tools (knowledge) than hooking up a home stereo.
Many think that simply knowing how to hook it up and getting sound out constitutes a "professional". But what is the quality of the sound and does everybody hear it the same are often the issues that make different people/designs stand apart from others.
On the other hand I have learned quite a bit from doing projects that were probably a little bit over my head and experience is a good teacher. The real question is "do you learn from your mistakes"? I know I have. But we have always made it "right" by the customer, so part of my learning curve has not been at the customers expense. 
Can I have some more talent in the monitors--PLEASE?
Ivan Beaver
dB Audio & Video Inc.
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| Re: Knowledge to do the Job? [message #319481 is a reply to message #319476 ] |
Sun, 04 May 2008 21:01 |
Dick Rees
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| Hal Bissinger/COMSYSTEC wrote on Sun, 04 May 2008 20:38 |
Audio isn't even digital so how difficult can it be?
-Hal
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Digital audio???? Child's play!!!!
Neo-Luddite, Rocket Surgeon
"The bum sat on the boxcar, his feet were on the ground"......Longfellow
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| Re: Knowledge to do the Job? [message #322359 is a reply to message #319394 ] |
Tue, 13 May 2008 12:08 |
Brad Weber
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I believe there is a big difference between someone that presented themselves as having some knowledge that they don't and someone who finds themselves in a situation where they need some knowledge they don't have. Try to keep in mind that there are a wide variety of people here. In some cases I think people may just not know what they don't know or realize how complex something is until they find out the hard way. In other cases it may be someone wanting to confirm what they already thought or seeing if there are any better ideas to be offered.
I'd much rather see somebody ask about something basic and maybe learn from it than their not asking!
Brad Weber
muse Audio Video
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| Re: Knowledge to do the Job? [message #322459 is a reply to message #322359 ] |
Tue, 13 May 2008 17:13 |
Craig Hauber
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Many times the job grows to something that forces you to expand your knowledge base.
The client starts out having you bid on something already specified -It's easy to fill out a shopping list and get it installed to the designers specifications. What happens when you get on the job and the designer never really existed -or left the job?
There's times that you are doing an audio job and you see your longtime good client having real problems with the lighting or video? I let them know straight up that I do not specialize in those fields yet they still insist they would rather have me attempt it before using the local dimwit they got stuck with.
How about the local video/lighting/whatever contractor who is a meddler and also really wants your audio portion of the job too? You'll say and do anything to keep them out of it so the job or future jobs for that client don't get poached away from you. -Not to mention them throwing aside comments to your client that they are getting ripped off and should have done it a different way.
Another one is technology that sneaks up on you faster than you can learn. example -RF video distribution to composite systems to RGB then plasmas appear and your dealing with 16:9 then suddenly this annoying thing called HDMI appears. It's nonstop sometimes.
Times are also tight right now, sometimes that leads you to different disciplines to try to profit better on jobs
-just some reasons I came up with.
Craig Hauber
CSA Productions Inc.
Simi Valley & Burbank CA
www.csaproductionsinc.com
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