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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #261154 is a reply to message #261147 ] |
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| Carsten Lang wrote on Tue, 06 November 2007 16:20 |
Is there anyone out there, who has already heard/using the geo s12?
..i guess so...
but did anyone heard the new rs15?
our company is invited for a demo next week.
i think will get a 6-cabinet-demo and some rs15.
are there any experiences with larger arrays, say 12 per side?
what will be a usable ratio top/sub?
another question... those new yamaha/nexo amps...
where will they be priced? when will they released? are there any technical datas released?
there will be some interesting things going on with the nexo stuff.....
carsten
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I don't believe I heard that the RS15 was out but i guess if you are going to see a demo then they are?
I am using S2's currently with my S12's.
I am planning on 4*S2's per 8*S12's.
I have not used it this way yet but feel that this will be a good combo. For heavy duty rock I may need more.
I should have more opinions on the S12's after tommorow.
I have no info on the RS15 because no one in the US has seen them yet.
If fact there is NO NX Load that includes processing for the RS15. I have 2.41 loaded onto all of my processors and this is the latest load.
sincerely,
Dan Brown
Dan Brown
REACH Communications
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #261227 is a reply to message #261147 ] |
Tue, 06 November 2007 20:24 |
 Kent Clasen
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| Carsten Lang wrote on Tue, 06 November 2007 22:20 |
Is there anyone out there, who has already heard/using the geo s12?
..i guess so...
but did anyone heard the new rs15?
our company is invited for a demo next week.
i think will get a 6-cabinet-demo and some rs15.
are there any experiences with larger arrays, say 12 per side?
what will be a usable ratio top/sub?
another question... those new yamaha/nexo amps...
where will they be priced? when will they released? are there any technical datas released?
there will be some interesting things going on with the nexo stuff.....
carsten
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They do show the RS15 a bunch in the new NxAmp pdf guide:
http://www.nexo-sa.com/asp/adverts/viewad.asp?id=29
The pricing is very competitive. I heard Jan 08 delivery.
Of course, Dan is the MAN! Let us know about those Geo12s!
[Updated on: Tue, 06 November 2007 20:25]
Kent Clasen
MSM Systems Inc.
Digital Audio
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #318924 is a reply to message #261147 ] |
Fri, 02 May 2008 19:05 |
Jayme Braun
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i have used the S12 in an install and love it!!! but i would go with CD18's flown not the
RS15. you will get way more out put and the sub quality is through the roof.
jb
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #318941 is a reply to message #318924 ] |
Fri, 02 May 2008 20:29 |
mel taylor
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I witnessed a camco/NX driven S12 rig 6 over 3 cd 18s, per side, last weekend in a 100' x 100' ballroom.
I was impressed (not blown away) with the quality and control of the S12, and could definitely appreciate the definition of the FIR set.
However, the CD 18s seemed to be very unruly. I've heard these subs perform very well with electronic music, but for this show (mostly acoustic) some distortions present seemed unavoidable and gave the system an unnatural linearity. Also, the attenuation in the rear did not seem sufficient to call it an effective cardioid (maybe -4 or 5dB).
All engineers over the weekend continuously fought feedback in the overlap area of the subs and tops. I wasn't the system engineer, so I won't comment on whether or not it was designed and deployed appropriately, but the tops seemed hung correctly.
One of the NX controllers blew up during the set-up, which I thought was odd. It made a huge digital noise and then boom through the system before loosing all power (luckily they had an extra on hand).
It quickly reminded me how valuable my Dynacord IRISnet amps are with 20-20 impedance references stored for comparison.
The S12 owner spent the remainder of the weekend constantly haunted by the insecurity that one or more drivers had died during the processor exit.
I'd want hands on time of my own before buying, but the S12 seems like an interesting value proposition that sounds good.
MT
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #318991 is a reply to message #318941 ] |
Sat, 03 May 2008 01:49 |
Pascal Pincosy
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| mel taylor wrote on Fri, 02 May 2008 18:29 |
However, the CD 18s seemed to be very unruly. I've heard these subs perform very well with electronic music
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I've been at the wheel of a Geo T/CD18 rig for an electronic music festival outdoors, and I couldn't disagree more with the second half of this statement. I may not know much, but I do know subs for electronic music, and the CD18 is not a good-sounding sub, at least for electronic music. Maybe they sound good for rock or acoustic, but not for electronic. 
On the other hand, I found that they did exactly what they were supposed to do. Sub wash on-stage was minimal, and with the proper configuration, they put the bass right where it needed to be. These subs are very sensitive to configuration and they need to be placed in a very exact manner. Having even a few inches off in the spacing will wreak havoc.
Know:Audio
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #319577 is a reply to message #261147 ] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 08:26 |
Lou Castellucci
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Registered: October 2005
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Having used all the NEXO Subs besides the RS15, the CD18 in my opinion is special and if used correctly is amazing. If the CD18 does not have enough room it does not perform at 100%. CD18s work best outside, flown or in a really big space. I have used them in smaller ballrooms, however the S2s, CD12s and GeoSubs are a bit faster with Transients and seem to sound better in smaller applications.
Having said that, if i was to buy an S12 rig, which i am close to doing, I would use the GeoSubs or S2s I already own, or buy the new RS15s for corporate, ballroom work.
When I go outdoors or arenas I use my GEOD with the Geosubs flown and use CD18s on the ground. I have also used CD18s in theaters such as the Beacon Theater with great success.
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #319588 is a reply to message #319577 ] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 09:01 |
Kent Clasen
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| Lou Castellucci wrote on Mon, 05 May 2008 14:26 |
Having used all the NEXO Subs besides the RS15, the CD18 in my opinion is special and if used correctly is amazing. If the CD18 does not have enough room it does not perform at 100%. CD18s work best outside, flown or in a really big space. I have used them in smaller ballrooms, however the S2s, CD12s and GeoSubs are a bit faster with Transients and seem to sound better in smaller applications.
Having said that, if i was to buy an S12 rig, which i am close to doing, I would use the GeoSubs or S2s I already own, or buy the new RS15s for corporate, ballroom work.
When I go outdoors or arenas I use my GEOD with the Geosubs flown and use CD18s on the ground. I have also used CD18s in theaters such as the Beacon Theater with great success.
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I heard the GeoS12 with RS15s in a hotel ballroom with the band Fourplay- who are fairly decent musicians  and it was one of the better sounding systems I have ever heard. If you are not familiar Fourplay is keyboardist Bob James, bassist Nathan East, guitarist Larry Carlton and drummer Harvey Mason.
In addition to what Lou said, Chip Self at Logic Systems told me that you need to properly space vertical stacks of CD18s horizontally 1-2' from each other too, not just block them together.
Kent Clasen
MSM Systems Inc.
Digital Audio
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #319784 is a reply to message #319588 ] |
Mon, 05 May 2008 18:58 |
HarryBrillJr.
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The pattern will narrow up as you space them apart. This may be the desired result. Tight packing them will keep the pattern wider when you have more than 1 stack. Separating them will narrow up the pattern.
I recommend stacking as high as you can. You also have to have lots of space around and behind the array.
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #319968 is a reply to message #319785 ] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 07:12 |
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Rasmus Rosenberg
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Hey Harry,
What's program is this? Also can you make a model of 6 high in one stack compared to two stacks of 3 high. Im testing it out this weekend.
RAsmus
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Rasmus Rosenberg
DPASoundCo A/s
http://www.myspace.com/rasmusrosenberg
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| Re: Nexo GeoS 12 and sub [message #320095 is a reply to message #320023 ] |
Tue, 06 May 2008 13:58 |
HarryBrillJr.
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| Lou Castellucci wrote on Tue, 06 May 2008 09:41 |
Hey Harry,
Using these so often I agree with the rear lobe when tight packed, however when spacing them it definitely seem to spread it out very well. it does not give you the sense of them getting tighter. What if you angle the CD18s a bit. Does that widen the pattern? Normally, i have used 3 tall x 3 stacks for Arenas. Center one pointing forward, others pointed outward.
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