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| Topic: Spot the Toolbag! |
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| Re: Spot the Toolbag! [message #382455 is a reply to message #382397 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 08:56 |
 Charlie Zureki
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Registered: April 2008
Location: Detroit Area |
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| Scott Raymond (Scott R) wrote on Sun, 30 November 2008 22:37 |
On a side note we were just thinking about Boulder the other day when we watched a couple episodes of Mork and Mindy on friday. The Sci-fi channel was having a marathon. I'd forgotten how funny that show could be. (Robin ad-libbing all the way if I remember correctly)
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Hello,
For Robin Williams, it was the ad-libbing, the Alcohol and the Cocaine that put the "funny" in the Mork and Mindy Show. 
Cheers,.... I mean... rehab
Hammer
Be prepared, you'll need it!
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| | Topic: What I'm thankful for...... |
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| Re: What I'm thankful for...... [message #382474 is a reply to message #382406 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 10:33 |
Dick Rees
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Location: St Paul, MN |
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Why do all my topics eventually ascend into discussions on accordion? I mean, there's so much more.....concertinas, harmonica, melodica......
YT
DR
Neo-Luddite, Rocket Surgeon
"Less is mo"
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| Re: What I'm thankful for...... [message #382488 is a reply to message #382474 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 11:31 |
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Lee Brenkman
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Registered: April 2004
Location: Oakland CA |
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| Dick Rees wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 08:33 |
Why do all my topics eventually ascend into discussions on accordion? I mean, there's so much more.....concertinas, harmonica, melodica......
YT
DR
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Not just discussion of accordions but downright hatin'.
The free reed instruments are much misunderstood and unfairly dissed IMNSHO.
Two of the best all around musicians I've ever worked with have played them
Scottish accordionist and composer Phil Cunningham.
And he leader of one of the BADDEST bands I've ever mixed. Astor Piazzolla.
The squeezebox in the picture is a bandoneon. Originally designed as an organ substitute for small German churches that couldn't afford organs, that in the hands of German sailors found it's way into the bordellos of Buenos Aires, becoming the central sound of the tango.
Remember kids, there's much more to music than rock, guitars and "killer" kick drum.
For that too, I am thankful!
[Updated on: Mon, 01 December 2008 11:32]
"if you can't hear Freddie Green, you're playing too loud"...Count Basie
"I'd like the monitors to sound like they've got chapped lips"...Tom Waits
"Grandescunt Aucta Labore"
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| | Topic: Wal-Mart Employee Trampled to Death |
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| Re: Wal-Mart Employee Trampled to Death [message #382466 is a reply to message #382392 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 09:48 |
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John Roberts {JR}
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Registered: April 2004
Location: MS |
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| Bob Leonard wrote on Sun, 30 November 2008 22:05 |
This entire tragedy is the result of very poor crowd control. There is no excuse for the manager not calling in for police assistance once a crowd of that size had gathered. Additionally the crowd should have been moved back from the door long before the opening at the very least. I suspect Walmart will be handing out a lrge sum for this tragic mistake. However, I doubt they really care.
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Ah the clarity of hindsight. I believe the police were involved when the crowd got unruly in the middle of the night but there was little they were going to do with over a thousand people.
This same promotion was done in how many stores Friday? And every Friday after thanksgiving for how many years? There have been broken bones and minor injuries but how many deaths? If anything projections were for a weak shopping season this year.
Local legislators are thinking of passing a "no black friday sales" law. Yup that'll fix it.
From one report I read, "Sensing catastrophe, nervous employees formed a human chain inside the entrance to slow down the mass of shoppers." WTF.. A human chain cannot slow down a couple thousand people. Either it stops them or it doesn't. The criminal misjudgment IMO was putting life and limb at risk in the path of a couple thousand unruly shoppers, without some kind of visible force amplifier.
I suspect there will be policy changes made in reaction to this tragedy, and Walmart will probably get sued, whether they are at fault or not.
JR
https://www.resotune.com/
"A bus in a console is spelled with one 's', but you can buss your girlfriend while riding in a bus."
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| Re: Wal-Mart Employee Trampled to Death [message #382482 is a reply to message #382466 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 11:03 |
Charlie Zureki
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Registered: April 2008
Location: Detroit Area |
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| John Roberts {JR} wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 09:48 |
I suspect there will be policy changes made in reaction to this tragedy, and Walmart will probably get sued, whether they are at fault or not.
JR
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Hello,
It is my opinion that Wal-mart IS to blame for this tragedy.
There has been a long history of people being trampled that have resulted in deaths from discount sales, tickets to events, general admission seating, and "free" give aways.
These events have happened not only in the US, but, everywhere in the world.
Decades ago, somewhere, someone came up with the idea of a "take a number dispenser" which helped maintain order for merchants. The cost would have more than paid for itself versus the pending lawsuits and the loss of the employee.
Wal-mart should be sued by anyone injured, and fined for the costs of the investigation. They generated the Sale hype, with no real plan for crowd control. Shame on Wal-mart!
Hammer
Be prepared, you'll need it!
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| Re: Wal-Mart Employee Trampled to Death [message #382487 is a reply to message #382078 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 11:29 |
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| Bennett Prescott wrote on Sat, 29 November 2008 13:02 |
The thing that frightens me most about Mumbai is that it only took (as far as I can tell) 8 guys with guns, whatever they could carry on their backs, and a few days of reconnaissance to hold Mumbai hostage for four days and kill 150+ innocent bystanders.
The two hotels with the largest number of casualties were held by two or three men each.
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Hi Bennett,
There were 7 venues for this event, 7 simultaneous targets, put "two or three men" in each of the hotels and that's 6 of your 8 accounted for, I doubt the remaining 2 could handle all the other attacks. I think we will find that 15 to 20 men carried these out, who knows how many more were involved with planning/preparation etc.
The venues:
Taj Hotel
Oberoi Hotel
Metro Cineplex
Cama Women & Childrens Hospital
Nariman House
Leopold Cafe
Chhatrapi Rail Terminus.
Respect & prayers for all those who suffered.
Ian
I can say with some certainty that this was an activity quite unknown in Iowa!
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| Re: Wal-Mart Employee Trampled to Death [message #382500 is a reply to message #382466 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 11:52 |
Tim McCulloch
Messages: 4494
Registered: April 2004
Location: Wichita KS USA |
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| John Roberts {JR} wrote on Mon, 01 December 2008 09:48 |
| Bob Leonard wrote on Sun, 30 November 2008 22:05 |
This entire tragedy is the result of very poor crowd control. There is no excuse for the manager not calling in for police assistance once a crowd of that size had gathered. Additionally the crowd should have been moved back from the door long before the opening at the very least. I suspect Walmart will be handing out a lrge sum for this tragic mistake. However, I doubt they really care.
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Ah the clarity of hindsight. I believe the police were involved when the crowd got unruly in the middle of the night but there was little they were going to do with over a thousand people.
This same promotion was done in how many stores Friday? And every Friday after thanksgiving for how many years? There have been broken bones and minor injuries but how many deaths? If anything projections were for a weak shopping season this year.
Local legislators are thinking of passing a "no black friday sales" law. Yup that'll fix it.
From one report I read, "Sensing catastrophe, nervous employees formed a human chain inside the entrance to slow down the mass of shoppers." WTF.. A human chain cannot slow down a couple thousand people. Either it stops them or it doesn't. The criminal misjudgment IMO was putting life and limb at risk in the path of a couple thousand unruly shoppers, without some kind of visible force amplifier.
I suspect there will be policy changes made in reaction to this tragedy, and Walmart will probably get sued, whether they are at fault or not.
JR
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Concert promoters are frequently held criminally and civilly liable when the don't have sufficient security/crowd control; why should WalMart be any different?
Personally, I think concert-goers who mosh or crowd surf should not be able to sue promoters; crowd surfers should be allowed to fall on their asses or heads when the go over the barricade, then unceremoniously dumped outside the venue with a big "no re-admit" stamp on their foreheads... but the legal-eagles tell me that won't fly.
WalMart didn't have a sufficient plan to deal with this crowd, and had no contingency plan for when things got worse. They, and those similarly situated, need to be held accountable just like the entertainment industry.
Sorry, JR, but that's the way it is.
Tim "has WalMart stock in a mutual fund" Mc
edit ps... I doubt the survivors of the deceased will get much in the way of compensation, either, because of Workman's Compensation laws designed to limit employer's exposure to lawsuits... but I could be wrong because workman's comp laws are different in each state and NY might be more inclusive.
re-edit pps... my lawyer tells me wrongful death suits are not usually limited by workman's comp...
[Updated on: Mon, 01 December 2008 14:02]
"Art establishes the basic human truth which must serve as the touchstone of our judgment." JFK
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| | Topic: This is going on my rider |
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| Re: This is going on my rider [message #382446 is a reply to message #381546 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 07:22 |
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Geoff Chartier
Messages: 53
Registered: July 2008
Location: Portland, Maine |
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| Bob Leonard wrote on Wed, 26 November 2008 21:38 |
Quite clearly the weasels have ripped my flesh.
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RZZZZZ!
-Better than bad, it's good.
-You can put whipped cream on top of crap, but it's still crap.
-"We can't put that one thing on top of that other thing until whats-his-name shows up with his junk in a while." -Bob Charest
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| | | Topic: Symetrix SX202 with an Unbalanced input? |
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| Symetrix SX202 with an Unbalanced input? [message #382559] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 14:59 |
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Dan Brandesky
Messages: 739
Registered: February 2006
Location: Columbus/Lima, OH |
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Is it possible/advisable to use a Symetrix SX202 with an unbalanced input? I realize I would need an odd 1/4"-XLR adapter, but beyond that, is it doable? I want to use it as a preamp (duh) to buffer my Roland SDE-1000 before it goes into the guitar amp. I was just hoping to not have to use a direct box in the chain as well, to simplify. I was just going to get some sort of preamp pedal for this, but most of them have some sort of tone boost built in, which I don't want, and the 202 is useful for more than just one thing, and I like multi-functionality.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Dan
Why do I need cymbal overheads? I'll just use SM58s on the vocals.
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| | Topic: I pod orginiztion |
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| Re: I pod orginiztion [message #382490 is a reply to message #382415 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 11:31 |
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Adam Whetham
Messages: 1473
Registered: June 2006
Location: Grand Forks, ND |
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| Matt_Young wrote on Sun, 30 November 2008 23:24 |
That's my biggest gripe about the iPod line. Why couldn't Apple give us more options for editing playlists away from the computer? That On-the-go playlist is a joke and there's no other way. Maybe a few generations down the line...
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I agree. The playlist limitation is the most anoying thing ever...
I don't have time to sit on my computer and think about a playlist/s that I want/need. Why can't we make them on the unit itself..  I get bored at shows and would make my playlists there if I could.
-Wiggles
Freelance Audio Tech
My Weekend Gig
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| Re: I pod orginiztion [message #382574 is a reply to message #382402 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 15:46 |
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Scott Smith
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Registered: May 2005
Location: South Florida |
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Media Monkey! This program breaks all the rules!
"Percussive Maintenance" - Bang on it until it works!
Scott Smith, South Florida
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| | Topic: More SDE-1000 Issues: Signal noise |
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| Re: More SDE-1000 Issues: Signal noise [message #382589 is a reply to message #382325 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 18:02 |
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Dan Brandesky
Messages: 739
Registered: February 2006
Location: Columbus/Lima, OH |
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I just did some experimentation, and here's what I figured out: I tried connecting the SDE to the rhodes/amp through my Yamaha MG10/2 mixer in various ways, and I found that the SDE makes noise when notes are played when it is connected directly to the amp from its output (either mixed or delay out), OR when it is connected directly to the Rhodes at the input. IOW, the only way I found to get lower "note" noise is to connect the Rhodes to the Yamaha, then create an FX loop through the Yamaha, and feed the amp off the master out of the Yamaha. Obviously this means I get a generally noisy signal now with my odd collection of devices chained together in various ways. The gain structure on the mixer is also of course really strange; the SDE seems to put out a really weak signal, so I have to crank up the gain on the SDE return channel, creating more noise, ad nauseum. But, the "note" noise is now only noticeable when I have the delay out cranked up all the way, which with this setup I rarely do.
What seems slightly weird about all this, despite all the odd connections, is that I don't think I had this problem live. At least I never noticed a disproportionate amount of noise added when I used the SDE live in "normal" situations.
I'm contemplating picking up a Symetrix SX202 to use as a preamp for the Rhodes to go into the SDE, and a buffer of sorts for the SDE out into the amplifier (it's a 2 channel preamp). I don't know if this would actually work, but I'm hoping that if it does, the (hopefully) better design of the Symetrix preamps will create less overall noise.
Anyone have thoughts on this?
-Dan
Why do I need cymbal overheads? I'll just use SM58s on the vocals.
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| | Topic: Cream sinks to the bottom.... |
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| Cream sinks to the bottom.... [message #382557] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 14:53 |
Dick Rees
Messages: 2509
Registered: September 2007
Location: St Paul, MN |
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ComCast is using "I Feel Free" by Cream as a music bed for their latest add. 
Neo-Luddite, Rocket Surgeon
"Less is mo"
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| Re: Cream sinks to the bottom.... [message #382596 is a reply to message #382557 ] |
Mon, 01 December 2008 18:40 |
 SteveKirby
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Registered: October 2007
Location: Santa Cruz |
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Is there anything "free" about what they're advertising?
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