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| Re: Mac or PC [message #303957 is a reply to message #303946 ] |
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 Duncan McLennan
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I'm a Mac guy for no reason other than that I've had them for quite a while and don't want to bother changing. I use PCs all the time too. Whatever's available, and whatever fits the bill.
Duncan McLennan
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| Re: Mac or PC [message #304022 is a reply to message #303997 ] |
Wed, 19 March 2008 03:12 |
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Andy Peters
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| Steve Syfuhs wrote on Tue, 18 March 2008 20:59 |
2a. Requirements for "Mac Officially Certified" programs are god awful.
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What programs are "Mac Officially Certified"? And who cares?
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2b. Apple doesn't provide the level of developer support Microsoft/Any linux distro provides.
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Ahhh, so you think that MSDN is better than an Apple Developer Connection membership? Are you a developer? Do you know that if you pay for different levels of service, you get excellent access to Mac developer support? Even Apple's freely-available developer stuff (including -- get this -- the tools) is far superior to the free stuff available from Microsoft.
And Linux developer support? You're funny. Pay Red Hat and you'll get support. Otherwise, read mailing lists and hope you get help.
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2c. Ironically, Apple's architecture is highly unknown, whereas Microsoft (if you pay them enough naturally) will tell you from the ground up how Windows was built.
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This is proof that you're talking out of your ass. Darwin is all open-source.
Sheesh.
-a
"Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice."
"Your band isn't good enough for my PA."
"On the Internet, nobody can hear you mix a band."
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| Re: Mac or PC [message #304271 is a reply to message #303946 ] |
Wed, 19 March 2008 16:56 |
Steve Syfuhs
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I've been developing software for god-knows how many years on windows, apple, and linux. Everyone is allowed their own opinions, I just prefer Microsoft.
I don't remember what the official certification is called by Apple, but its the only way they will advertise the software. It may have changed in the last year or two, but in 2004 Apple was addimant about software certification...making sure it is completely compatible with the system etc. Much like microsoft's ISV requirements for new software on Vista.
Yes darwin is open source. Yes you can pay for excellent dev support. It is still far easier to develop code for Windows. With the release of .NET 3.5 and all it brings along...linq, wpf, silverlight(no comment there... flash is easier), etc. you can build bigger apps in less time with less effort without building the parts that all apps need (DALs, presentation layers etc). ...And .NET is open source. And the MSDN content is all free. And based on the conjectures I doubt those arguing have actually built applications with visual studio. To be fair, I haven't touched dev on a mac in a year and a half.
So much for not wanting to start a fire...ah well. It was originally supposed to be good natured.
An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less until they know absolutely everything about absolutely nothing.
http://www.doublenatural.com/blog/
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| Re: Mac or PC [message #304344 is a reply to message #304271 ] |
Wed, 19 March 2008 21:30 |
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| Steve Syfuhs wrote on Wed, 19 March 2008 16:56 |
but in 2004 Apple was addimant about software certification
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Addimant?
How's your spelling when it's code?
I can say with some certainty that this was an activity quite unknown in Iowa!
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