| Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #28587] |
Mon, 27 December 2004 02:20  |
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Adam Robinson
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So now that I've been on the road for a nice long run and away from the confines of the PA I built, I wanna throw around some house EQ ideas and see what everyone thinks.
I'm always happy to walk into a venue with a DN360 because I know that they sound good and do what I ask. I have to say though, that I'm not a fan of the MELT filter and I've been places where cutting something 12DB just isn't enough. The DN3600 is cool, but I feel the same about its sound.
What's the word on the DN370?
I haven't gotten a chance to use the Helix EQs, but I've seen them. Comments?
I really like the Ashly EQs - I think they sound awesome and a friend of mine who owns a decent size production house agrees with me and said that if the DN360 wasn't what everyone wanted to use, he'd have the Ashlys. The Protea EQs sound pretty good, but I don't think the filters are as nice as the analogs. I built an 8 mix monitor rig with the protea system in it and the remote - that's what it's great for. I really like being able to walk around to the different wedges with the remote and ringing them out. Guest engineers enjoyed it, too.
I think that the BSS 960 is an awesome sounding EQ, but again, I've come across too many places where 10db of cut doesn't get close. Their Opal series EQ sounds good, too. When it comes to BSS, though, I'm a varicurve fan. You don't see too many of them though. If I could come across a Varicurve slave and a remote, I'd put that in my FOH rack.
I can hear the different between a DBX 1231 and 2231 (I like the 2231 better) but they're both respectable EQs.
We were on a college tour and I brought along a 1-space Yamaha Parametric EQ that, for what I spent, was worth having - especially when coming into places with behringer, DOD, Rane, or no EQ. 6 para. filters, 4 notch filters, HPF, and LPF. It's a pretty versatile little box aside from being a little difficult to control.
I'm really curious to hear what everyone else thinks.
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| Re: Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #28597 is a reply to message #28587 ] |
Mon, 27 December 2004 04:45  |
Michael Strickland
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I haven't been around as much as a lot of other guys have, but so far I like the Klark DN 300.
If I ever get tapped to go on a real tour, an EQ is something I'd bring with me in my rack.
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| Re: Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #28604 is a reply to message #28587 ] |
Mon, 27 December 2004 08:24 |
 Chris Beyer
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| kcadam wrote on Mon, 27 December 2004 03:20 |
I think that the BSS 960 is an awesome sounding EQ, but again, I've come across too many places where 10db of cut doesn't get close.
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Hello Adam,
I'm thinking that if 10dB of cut on a graphic style EQ is not enough there is more going on than any EQ will fix.
My favorite EQ? The one you don't need to use 
Lake Mesa Quad any other time.
[Updated on: Mon, 27 December 2004 08:31]
Chris Beyer
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| Re: Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #28649 is a reply to message #28604 ] |
Mon, 27 December 2004 13:30 |
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I cannot stand the analog Ashly's...the Q is WAY too broad for my tastes.
Jason Phair
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| Re: Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #28654 is a reply to message #28587 ] |
Mon, 27 December 2004 14:32 |
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Like you, I'm a fan of the Varicurve. All I miss on it are HPF/LPF, otherwise they are great.
There are quite a few floating around on the used market actually. Do a google search and I'm sure you'll find some.
Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.
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| Re: Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #28683 is a reply to message #28650 ] |
Mon, 27 December 2004 19:01 |
Brian Adams
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A friend of mine uses 2 of those for monitors, and they seemed to work well. The built in gate is a cool feature. I can't comment on them too much though, since he never has to do too much with them. I've only ever seen him cut about 2dB at the most with them, but that doesn't tell you too much about the EQ, just the wedges.
I like my DBX iEQ-31 for FOH, but I think I might prefer a Rane DEQ for monitors. I think the filters are a bit narrower.
B.
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| Re: Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #28791 is a reply to message #28587 ] |
Tue, 28 December 2004 18:31 |
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Baron Gray
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My picks
Number one would go to Lake (Santa....please)
Number two would go to the Sabine Power Q (with a notebook hooked up otherwise the interface is too fiddly)
Number three is the KT DN-9340 (same deal with the notebook as the touch pad thingy is really easy to send bands where you don't want)
For good old reliable workhorses I don't mind the DN-360 and even the Rane ME60 (these are quick and nasty but predictable)
In the MI end of town? The old Behringer Ultracurve seems to work really well, maybe way too well, for the el cheapo piece of crap that it is. Same deal with the interface and without a notebook hooked up you had better only be wanting to set and forget.
I recently used an old Yamaha that did impress me but I can't remember the model. Big faders and an adjustable hpf/lpf.
What is it with digital EQs and their interfaces?
Great sound but woefull controls. Now if I could get my DN360 to MIDI up to my Sabine......woo hoo!
Baron
See, you can't rewrite, 'cause to rewrite is to deceive and lie, and you betray your own thoughts. To rethink the flow and the rhythm, the tumbling out of the words, is a betrayal, and it's a sin, Martin, it's a sin.
Hank from the 'Naked Lunch'
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| Re: Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #39539 is a reply to message #28791 ] |
Sat, 12 March 2005 19:08 |
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bo putnam
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Late to this thread...
KT DN370 is a beaut. Analogue, 30-band, Proportional-Q, variable Low and High Pass Filters, variable Notch Filters (two, overlapping - 20Hz to 2kHz and 200Hz to 20kHz)
This is a beauty. Trialed it last night FOH on the mains, and had the best sound, to-date of the many I've tried, including dbx1231, Ashly Protea (sounds digital to me...) and Ashly GQX3102. The DN370 is very, very clean - transparent.
The variable Notch filters are VERY powerful tools, >18dB attenuation, Q=32
We have played this club many, many times, and last night I had the least filtering ever for this joint. A couple of well located notch filters, one at 90Hz augmented by further attenuation on the relevant fader gave me -30dB there (at very high Q) for some nasty room resonance, and -18dB at 250Hz (notch filter alone) cleared up some endemic muddiness. I needed little if any other fader(s) adjustment.
The Proportional-Q (versus prior Symmetrical-Q models) seems to have reduced / eliminated "ripple" effects. The result is remarkably increased clarity (and what I had before was really great).
bo
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| Re: Some EQ Banter - What's your fave? [message #39605 is a reply to message #28587 ] |
Sun, 13 March 2005 16:29 |
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Milt Hathaway
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AudioArts (now Wheatstone) 2700B, coupled with an AudioArts 1500 Notch Filter.
Still going 25 years later.
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Milt
FitzCo Sound, Inc.
Midland, TX
http://www.fitzcosound.com
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