|
| Re: The Complete FOH Engineer [message #218334 is a reply to message #218325 ] |
Sat, 09 June 2007 19:51   |
 Tim McCulloch
Messages: 3819
Registered: April 2004
Location: Wichita KS USA |
Has No Life |
|
|
Ditto to what Rob says.
Scoville is a great teacher. He's able to explain concepts, demonstrate them, and then have students demonstrate their understanding.
A special thanks to CRAS' Gilbert AZ campus for hosting this event. The staff and students were gracious and understanding while we invaded their space for 3 days.
I can't recommend this course too highly. If its offered again this year, GO!
Tim Mc
I wrote that while my flight was being called, and wanted to expand a little.
Robert's first priority was to bring home the concept of "linear transfer" for the propose of having genuine control of what you do while mixing, and the implications of NOT having an honest system. Next he went through the things that make for non-linear transfer, and fundamentally they are all rooted in time. He did a very good job of explaining and demonstrating the concepts and outcomes and patiently stayed with the topics until all 24 of us became one with the concept.
A couple of presentations drove home things my ears have told me for 25 years, and gave me solid comprehension of things that my gut told me were right but I couldn't have told you why. Others struck me as novel and useful implementations of things already at my disposal. Robert thinks outside the box while most of us are still trying to build the box. 
There was a broad range of participants, in terms of training, experience, FOH responsibilities, venue, and genre. Corporate AV, H.O.W., band engineers, regional and small operators... all part of the stew. Hearing the questions and comments of people who use systems in different ways was informative and helpful in furthering my understanding of the concepts being presented.
As a system engineer, I got a better understanding of the artistic and management expectations of the FOH person, and how a good mixerperson can create "product" and add value to the business side (and be compensated accordingly) that goes beyond a mere mix for the arena.
The Conservatory staff, especially Cory, were great folks. The facility is well done. Our space had a Dolby Lake controlled Kudo/SB218 rig, Robert's personal Digidesign console, a stage with lighting. OH, and nice floor-to-ceiling velour treatment. All in all a great place to do this.
Next time, I hope there can be more hands-on mix time on the last day... or perhaps make another session specifically for mix time and and evaluation.
This is 'must have' training for anyone who wants to call themselves a mixer.
Have fun, good luck.
Tim "away from a computer til father's day" Mc
[Updated on: Sun, 10 June 2007 15:13]
|
|
|
| Changed Message Title [message #218480 is a reply to message #218325 ] |
Sun, 10 June 2007 17:13 |
 |
Doug Fowler
Messages: 1132
Registered: April 2004
Location: Saint Louis |
Has No Life |
|
|
Rob -
I changed the message title and made it sticky for the purpose of allowing all June 2007 attendee comments to be posted in one place.
I didn't change the content :-)
thanks for attending......
-doug
[Updated on: Sun, 10 June 2007 17:14]
|
|
|
|
| Re: The Complete FOH Engineer - June 2007 Student Comments [message #220226 is a reply to message #218325 ] |
Sat, 16 June 2007 14:07 |
Mitch Grant
Messages: 213
Registered: April 2004 |
Has No Life |
|
|
Well, after missing the last seminar a few years back because of unavoidable work commitments, I must say that this recent Audio Seminars event with Robert Scovill was definitely worth the wait!
As Robert pointed out at the beginning of this 3 day long course, MUCH has changed since the last get together. New tools are available for the mix engineer to refine his (or her) product to a level that has never been possible before.
Robert has a very systematic approach to creating a great sounding mix that starts with the essentials of system coherency, and moves through the entire process of delivering great audio. At all times, concepts were explained thoroughly and clearly.
Please note that this is NOT what I would call a "tips and tricks" seminar. It could be better described as a "new fundamentals" class that utilizes state-of-the-art tools and concepts for the 21st century audio engineer.
Like it or not, we are at the beginning of a new era in the age of audio. Every individual must decide for themselves whether they will be among those on the leading edge who make use of all the available technology (and the changes in methodology that are now possible), or whether they are content to simply be left behind.
No matter what your skill or experience level, you will walk away from this seminar with solid, beneficial, "real world" audio knowledge that you can put to use right away. Thanks and congrats to Doug Fowler and Robert Scovill for a job well done!
Mitch Grant
Special Event Audio Services
[Updated on: Sun, 17 June 2007 11:33]
|
|
|
|
| Re: The Complete FOH Engineer - June 2007 Student Comments [message #220972 is a reply to message #218325 ] |
Tue, 19 June 2007 21:23 |
 |
Dave Stagl
Messages: 63
Registered: July 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA |
Should Get Out More |
|
|
Well, I don't know about anybody else, but last weekend I took the opportunity to put a bunch of the stuff Scovi showed us into practice. I don't know how much of it was related to the new stuff (using groups for offsets, phase aligning the subs and top-boxes, Sansamp on the bass, XY overheads, etc, etc.), but I received a lot more compliments than usual.
The course was a great investment, and I'm looking forward to my mixes continuing to improve as I get better at implementing this stuff. If you call yourself a professional audio engineer(people pay you to do this stuff), it is definitely worth it to check this course out.
Thanks to Robert and Doug for putting this together, and thanks to CRAS for hosting it!
Dave
--
http://www.goingto11.com
|
|
|
|
| Re: The Complete FOH Engineer - June 2007 Student Comments [message #235895 is a reply to message #218325 ] |
Fri, 10 August 2007 16:02 |
|
Doug Fowler
Messages: 1132
Registered: April 2004
Location: Saint Louis |
Has No Life |
|
|
This just in from Scott Fahy, I posted it for him with his permission:
Robert just a quick note, I was able to utilize some of the things discussed at the seminar at a gig I did last week. CD release party at a venue with 2 McCauley line arrays in a small narrow room and lots of brick and AC vents 5 feet from the left stack.
Massive amounts of comb filtering going on-- I turned the left stack down 10db-- you would have thought there was a whole new rig. Also used some forward compression on the lead vocal and another one for kick snare rack floor tom bass. The house tech kept asking me what the heck I did to his PA with a big grin on his face.
Much Thanks for making me look good with a lot of high level folks on that one
Scott Fahy
|
|
|
Welcome to the ProSoundWeb sound reinforcement forums, home of more than 50,000 audio professionals. 
Forum Home
Login
Forum Search
Register
FAQ
- So where were all the women?
