| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #261718 is a reply to message #261712 ] |
Thu, 08 November 2007 10:14   |
 Jeff Babcock
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Jeff,
For a similar comparison, Yorkville sells the UCS1p and LS800p for about $1150-1200 in terms of typical selling price (not MSRP). Those are decent powered subs at a good price, they've sold a lot of LS800p's for sure. If you could offer a powered growler in that price range, you would have a much more compact package which would have an edge over those products IMHO. Take the free shipping out of your deals and you could probably get close to Yorkville's price range.
But, don't jump into this without some serious research. See if your market will support it. Also consider warranty implications, you would have more to potentially support. JR is absolutely right about people sometimes having difficulty understanding all of the added value in a powered rig.
Cheers
Jeff
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #267114 is a reply to message #267036 ] |
Tue, 27 November 2007 03:59 |
Art Welter
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Registered: October 2007
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Hey Phil,
After that chest thumping low end? I'm sure you can get it from the growlers, but chest thumping is a bit subjective, and I would generally peg it at a higher frequency than real sub action, more like 60-160 HZ. I'm not a very big guy though, probably the bigger the barrel, the lower the thump.
Going lower, feeling your pants legs flutter is a sure sign of "moving some air". A couple octaves down from the chest thump, the "eye wiggle" is even more extreme.
You need staccato, "punchy" stuff to get chest thumping, heavily damped kick drum is the usual suspect.
That said, to this day, the most chest thumping action I have ever heard were the guitars for Humble Fu*%ing Pie (thats how they were intruduced)4-13-91 at Sam's (now First Avenue) in Minneapolis. The guitars were panned hard right and left, and at times it felt like someone wrapped a packing blanket over your chest and 8 guys with baseball bats were beating on the brat.
Most of that juice would have been centered around 160HZ, and it was the only time I ever saw anyone thermal one of our low mid amps. Anybody know that sound man? He was the guy on the cover of Humble Pie's "Go For The Throat" record from that same time.
Chest thumping low end will depend on the size of the room and how close you are to the thumpers, two should get you going.
Growl on.
Art
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #269258 is a reply to message #269244 ] |
Tue, 04 December 2007 14:16 |
peter.golde
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+1 on the 4080HZ The last big gig I did, the other sound guys came to check out my rig, they swore I had big Crown sub amps, I was running 4 horn subs off a CS4080HZ, no lack of low end. I run this amp hard at all night desert raves off a small genny with no problems after over a year of abuse. Just be aware it is designed to drive 4 ohm per ch minimum impedance.
"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer" - Frank Zappa
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