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got jtr growlers? what mains are you running with them? i want to hear success stories and see pics of setups using growlers.
i think i've caught the growler bug. i do a lot of dance (techno) shows and think a pair or two of these little loud guys would be rocking.
[Updated on: Fri, 01 June 2007 04:16]
Josh Cohen
Sense Sound / Shift Industries
New Orleans, La
504.231.2030
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Fri, 01 June 2007 15:27  |
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| Tim McCulloch wrote on Fri, 01 June 2007 15:24 |
If I were building a club rig that I had to move myself, I'd probably purchase Growlers.
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exactly!
Josh Cohen
Sense Sound / Shift Industries
New Orleans, La
504.231.2030
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #216292 is a reply to message #216048 ] |
Sat, 02 June 2007 17:34 |
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 Rob Spence
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My rig, which I will get some pics of in a couple of weeks, is 4 growlers stacked 2 per side with QRX212s on top.
The 2 Growlers stacked gets the QRX up high enough.
I have heard Mike Christy's pair and while I like em a lot, more is better.
I am powering them now one per channel on a pair of PLX3002s but want to go to bigger power for them such as a PL6.0 or Crest Pro 9200.
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Rob Spence
Lynx Audio Services
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #217361 is a reply to message #216292 ] |
Wed, 06 June 2007 12:11 |
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 Mike Christy
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Josh, like my mini review states in the Prod Review area, Ive got one RMX2450 bridged into each Growler, that's about 1500W into each. The only time Ive seen those amps clip was when Rob and Will were over to checkout the Growlers (maybe it has something to do with Rob, that clip issue just seems to follow him  ) Just kidding... it was some sub killer track on the shootout CD that did it, but no majic smoke.
I dont think it was a fair listening test at my place, the cabs were setup on a screen porch, kind of coupled but not really, facing an open sliding glass door into the house, and 1/2 the side of the house, it was LOUD, but I think even louder inside the house - across the living room and by the kitchen sink - let the wave lengths unfold. I dont think we realized how loud it was until we tried to talk to each other - it was very clean. I do plan on getting another set, with 4 they will cover any size gig I will be willing to do.
None the less, I am VERY pleased with them, they are easy to carry/move, sound good and low, are musical, look great, I cant find a flaw, they are perfect for me. I think if you are doing DJ stuff you will love them. Alot of my gigs are DJ/hip-hop, and those kids are amazed by them, they have never heard such a small system put out such a quality sound, although, I think they get crap systems lots of time, and engineers who dont give a rat's ass. Last gig they said there was to much bass - what the?!
I digress... I have a gig Friday night, Ill post more pics than are on the pisces sound site, and a short review on how they make Vdrums sound, should be interesting...
Mike
Pisces Sound
Seacoast New Hampshire
Southern Maine
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #220923 is a reply to message #217490 ] |
Tue, 19 June 2007 17:47 |
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What do you think 2 JTRs vs. 4 yorkville 808s? Assume both boxes are properly powered...
-will
LH Productions Inc.
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #221080 is a reply to message #220923 ] |
Wed, 20 June 2007 07:30 |
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Mike Christy
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That's a tough one, Ive never heard the 808s. Obviously the Growlers are horn loaded and the Yorkies are a pseudo loaded/reflex design. Yorkville has found a nice trick in tuning that box (so Ive read). I almost pulled the trigger on some 808s, but got the Growlers.
I think the cabs are going to sound different. Horn loaded typically take less power to generate the same SPL, but are better used in pairs (or more). Ive read the 808s can be violent but dont go as low as others.
Im sure everyone's sick of reading my same Growler spiel, but they are musical, smooth, full, and do go low, especially for their size. They are 100db @1w/m ( @60Hz I think, help someone? ) - that is a real measured spec. Yorkville doesn't publish their specs like that, I wish they did, at least we'd have some kind of starting reference, even if on paper.
<Begin Speculation> Im not sure 2 against 4 would be a fair fight, maybe the edge to the 808s for raw driver count and physical radiated cabinet area, by how many dB? Who knows. And what does it sound like? If your doubling the cabinets and doubling the amps your going to increase the SPL, no matter WHAT cabinet your up against. I'm certain you'll hear a different quality of sound from each set of cabinets, and is that the sound you want?
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Now 4 against 4? That's a different subject.
Pisces Sound
Seacoast New Hampshire
Southern Maine
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #223127 is a reply to message #215844 ] |
Wed, 27 June 2007 21:04 |
Matt Jordan
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I can demo Growlers in Boise, ID. I just took delivery on 2 units, and will be the Northwestern Growler dealer. Four words. I am VERY impressed. Thanks Jeff
Matt Jordan
Maxxsounds audio
Boise, ID
JTR Growler dealer/ live demos 23/6
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #223130 is a reply to message #223127 ] |
Wed, 27 June 2007 21:13 |
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| Matt Jordan wrote on Wed, 27 June 2007 21:04 |
I can demo Growlers in Boise, ID. I just took delivery on 2 units, and will be the Northwestern Growler dealer. Four words. I am VERY impressed. Thanks Jeff
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boise is a loooooong way from new orleans.
Josh Cohen
Sense Sound / Shift Industries
New Orleans, La
504.231.2030
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #223148 is a reply to message #223130 ] |
Wed, 27 June 2007 22:27 |
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| josh sense wrote on Wed, 27 June 2007 22:13 |
| Matt Jordan wrote on Wed, 27 June 2007 21:04 |
I can demo Growlers in Boise, ID. I just took delivery on 2 units, and will be the Northwestern Growler dealer. Four words. I am VERY impressed. Thanks Jeff
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boise is a loooooong way from new orleans.
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Nahh, it's only 2221.88 miles
Philip LaDue
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 Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #223365 is a reply to message #215844 ] |
Thu, 28 June 2007 15:58 |
Roy Tamanaha
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There have already been so many positive things said about the JTR Growlers on PSW so please forgive any redundancy in this post. But for anyone who hasn't had the opportunity to hear and/or use with these subs, I want to share my recent experiences with you. My take is from a slightly different angle…..I purchased twelve of these great little cabs.
I started out by purchasing four Growlers from Jeff (great guy, easy to work with, and very knowledgeable), and was so impressed that I ended up purchasing twelve in all.
My reason for acquiring so many was to have the extra head room if needed for a large outdoor event that took place this past Memorial Day with 5000+ in attendance. As it turned out, I believe that we could have gotten by with just eight (four a side). The Growlers are very efficient and capable of high power handling.
We setup the Growlers in L-R clusters, mouths coupled, with eight Martin H3s on top. The system slammed! It required very little EQ and in fact, we ran the low end flat to the cut-off freq….around 35Hz. The output from the Growlers was incredible!
The lineup for the event included everything from jazz, to rap, to a high octane (but great!) rock band which included former members of Oingo Boingo. The Growlers pounded out the low end with extension and output that rivaled or beat any of the best dual 18”s we’ve used in the past and with much better sound quality! At about 500 ft back from the stage, the low end pounding was still very pronounced.
Other than some stage and power problems, the event went very well. Lots of compliments on the sound system from both the audience and performers alike (lots of references to how “fat” and “full” the system sounded) and we were offered the contract for next year’s event.
The Growlers are amazing subs especially when you consider their size, and keep in mind they’re loaded with a single twelve! They produce what I can only describe as a very in-your-face wavefront that for lack of a better term, “growls”. The sound is full, with the kind of impact that you would expect from front loaded subs. I can't get over how much I appreciate the immense sound from such a small package! Not being the youngest guy in the sound business, size and weight have become very important considerations when contemplating purchases and upgrades.
Of course, we’ve used the Growlers on a smaller scale, one or two a side for indoor corporate gigs. The bands are usually bass heavy, seven to nine pieces, for crowds ranging from 300 to 500. We’ve had no problem filling the rooms with plenty of punchy low end that keeps the dancers on the dance floor.
Needless to say, as a satisfied customer I'm very impressed with the JTR Growlers. If you have an opportunity to hear them, I urge you to go check them out. It'd be worth your time, money, and maybe your back! Can't tell you how many times we've seen smiles appear on the faces of drummers and bassists during sound check owing to the fat sound that the Growlers deliver!
Jeff’s other cabinets are due out soon and I hope to check them out as well….. a pair of his tops to start with and possibly expand from there.
I want to second Mike Christy’s “big thank you” to the folks who organized the NY shootout! It was through the shootout that I first became aware of the Growlers. The shootout was very well done and the information, discussions, and observations that followed have been invaluable to all of us who couldn’t attend.
Note to folks on the west coast: if you are attending the upcoming National Guitar Workshop in L.A., the Growlers will be used by McClendon Audio Inc. for all the live performances.
Best regards,
Roy
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| Re: got growlers? i want reviews + pics! [message #223419 is a reply to message #223365 ] |
Thu, 28 June 2007 20:28 |
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Mike Christy
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One of my "Growler" gigs, this one outdoors, they easily outrun the tops and I find myself constantly throttling them back... they seem to have a personality of their own...
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Pisces Sound
Seacoast New Hampshire
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