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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127573 is a reply to message #127560 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 15:21   |
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Brian and I were just talking about how APB should consider some new photos for their website. It looks somewhat less phonic-ish in real life than on their site. It is fairly colorful, and believe it or not, two seperate girls took pictures of the mixer at the show. I have to admit, I was surprised when I saw it in person. It's a nice looking desk.
The console feels solid. Probably slightly more so than Verona. Pots are nutted, jacks are high quality, faders are nice (not uber-smooth P&G nice, but very good.)
As far as the 1 master fader, I've never run my L/R outputs at different levels. I'd hardly consider this a dealbreaker. Also, It has a tone generator, but not a pink generator with an external output as far as I saw.
I'll jump in with Brian on this one, and agree that we were sold on a Yammi M7.....until this guy came around!
-JB
P.S. That guy in the picture should be a hand model!
[Updated on: Mon, 22 May 2006 15:27]
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127575 is a reply to message #127554 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 15:27   |
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| Grayson Rech wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 15:27 | I just noticed that for the master outputs there is only one fader next to the 8th VCA.
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Of course... otherwise you'd be changing your levels (and maybe crosspoints) between parts of your speaker system (L,C,R and Sub, potentially) whenever you adjusted it. A properly put together PA shouldn't have that happen to it.
For those of you asking for photos... here's one of the internal construction. I've got more, but I want to save them for my review. The reason there are two layers of PCB is a) rigidity and b) so they can route audio in three planes, thereby having as many audio paths cross at 90-degree angles as possible, thereby reducing noise and interference. In this photo that's the preamp module closest to you, fader furthest away. All parts are field-replaceable with a screwdriver, especially the fader.
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EONA ADRaudio d.o.o.
Cell: (518) 488-7190
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127577 is a reply to message #127573 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 15:30   |
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| Jim Bowersox wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 16:21 | Pots are nutted
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No they aren't! They're solidly constructed, though. You'd have to be throwing some real weight at the console to break one.
I also like the color scheme/layout/size of the console... High-contrast, everything's easy to see, important things are bright, less important things get out of your way.
-- Bennett Prescott
Director of North American Sales
EONA ADRaudio d.o.o.
Cell: (518) 488-7190
An amateur practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong.
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127578 is a reply to message #127577 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 15:34   |
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They're not nutted? My B. They felt like they were. They certainly didn't have the amount of "play" that I've experienced in my former FOH console.
-JB
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127582 is a reply to message #127575 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 15:41   |
Eric Snodgrass Messages: 1790 Registered: October 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA |
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| Bennett Prescott wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 13:27 |
| Grayson Rech wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 15:27 | I just noticed that for the master outputs there is only one fader next to the 8th VCA.
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Of course... otherwise you'd be changing your levels (and maybe crosspoints) between parts of your speaker system (L,C,R and Sub, potentially) whenever you adjusted it. A properly put together PA shouldn't have that happen to it.
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For a number of years I was mixing on an Amek Recall RN and it had a great feature where one could bypass the LR master faders. That meant that, when bypassed, any channel assigned to the Stereo master went straight to the Stereo master section of the matrix. I would always bypass the Stereo faders when mixing on this console. I never found it necessary to adjust the master faders.
On the other hand it is sometimes useful to have a secondary fader for an output so you can run subs off of it rather than using an aux.
Eric Snodgrass
No, really, I do this for a living.
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127605 is a reply to message #127601 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 17:15   |
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| Fred Merkle wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 17:59 | Secondly, I also believe that in terms of shielding and immunity, having a metal jack and jack nut with properly masked chassis (or lock washer of sorts) is far superior to plastic jacks. I'm especially concerned about it in this day and age of GSM.
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DISCLAIMER: I don't know what I'm talking about.
Wouldn't the chassis act as a faraday cage? It's certainly properly "grounded" to the signal reference... I'd think that incoming cables (which are outside) of the shield would be much more of a problem, but seeing as the whole design team was there with myself and a few other LABsters at SynAudCon Hums, Buzz, and RF I doubt you'll be able to get the console to have any sort of noise susceptibility.
-- Bennett Prescott
Director of North American Sales
EONA ADRaudio d.o.o.
Cell: (518) 488-7190
An amateur practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong.
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127611 is a reply to message #127580 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 17:39   |
Rick Stansby Messages: 974 Registered: November 2004 Location: Davis, California |
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Does anybody know what that little hole is next to the line in jacks? I think it is labeled "Ext In".
Rick
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127613 is a reply to message #127582 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 17:55   |
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John Petrucelli Messages: 51 Registered: March 2005 Location: Totowa, NJ |
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We here at APB just saw the review- thanks.
I think this thread may end up in the new Road Test Forum, but we'll try to respond to any specific questions brought up by posters.
The single House Master fader DOES control all 4 of the main outputs of the Console: Left, Right, Center and Mono.
The L-R-C buses are used when in LCR mode, an additional Mono bus is provided for Sub feed (or anything else) if desired.
If you DO want independent control of one (or 2) of the main outputs, there are 2 Alternate Outputs that can be fed from any (or all) of the main outputs- either pre or post the Master fader. These Alt Outs have their own (rotary) level controls and (transformer) balanced XLR outputs.
Ref RTFM: We'll have the Owner's Manual up on our website soon along with some updated pix.
Thanks,
JP
BTW: My finger's not THAT small ...
John Petrucelli
APB-DynaSonics
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127614 is a reply to message #127611 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 18:17   |
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| Rick Stansby wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 18:39 | Does anybody know what that little hole is next to the line in jacks? I think it is labeled "Ext In".
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That's a recessed latching button, Rick. It's for the expansion capabilities on the board... there are (three?) expansion slots by the master section that let you plug in external inputs (like CAT-5 from a digital snake) and then you bypass the console's pres and use your alternate input by pressing that recessed switch.
-- Bennett Prescott
Director of North American Sales
EONA ADRaudio d.o.o.
Cell: (518) 488-7190
An amateur practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong.
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| Re: APB Dynasonics Spectra-T - Show Report [message #127616 is a reply to message #127610 ] |
Mon, 22 May 2006 18:26   |
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| Fred Merkle wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 18:35 | Your faraday cage is only as good as the holes in it...
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The holes represent the knee of the faraday cage's high pass, I take it?
| Fred Merkle wrote on Mon, 22 May 2006 18:35 | That's easy enough to test out. Do you have a GSM phone? (preferably a Treo) Set it on the console and call it. See what happens when you move it around.
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Don't worry, I plan to test everything I receive that's got an audio interface. The Spectra T will go through the same tests the Roland's about to go through... phone and 60hz "hummer".
-- Bennett Prescott
Director of North American Sales
EONA ADRaudio d.o.o.
Cell: (518) 488-7190
An amateur practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong.
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