| To reel or not to reel? [message #321905] |
Sun, 11 May 2008 23:37  |
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Evan Kirkendall
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My snake sucks. It's time to upgrade. Im buying an EWI snake very, very soon. Im getting the 150' 32x8 snake. But, should I get the reel style, or not? I dont know which way to go. If I dont get a reel, then I'll need to buy another case to store the snake it. But, if I buy a reel snake, I'll need to buy a case to store it in. So, which do you guys prefer and why?
Thanks,
Evan
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| Re: To reel or not to reel? [message #321907 is a reply to message #321905 ] |
Sun, 11 May 2008 23:53  |
 Jason Dermer
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Evan,
I'm not a big fan of reel snakes, likely because most of the ones that I have come across are of the MI variety, and I have to see one with a split. (excepting those built by companies to keep their separated multicore on) Does EWI/Audiopile make a great bang for the buck snake? Yes, but you are on the way up in this business and a 32/8/150 is going to "fill up" and become too short really quick. Going with the buy once, cry once theory, I would look into a 48/8/ at least 200' with a split and mults, or possibly one of the new digital solutions. You'll then have a snake that can stay with you for years to come instead of one that will get you by for a year.
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Jason Dermer
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| Re: To reel or not to reel? [message #321927 is a reply to message #321905 ] |
Mon, 12 May 2008 07:11 |
Jim Trust
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I have never had a reel snake and am sticking to that decision based on a couple of past threads on this forum. One reason for me is that some people said the small diameter of the reel caused a bend in the snake that was hard to get out. Another reason is that I have gotten good at winding it up into a case. I would imagine that a thicker snake would be even more reason to wind it up into a case vs. using a reel. Here's why, over-undering into a case can be done with two hands. I haven't used a reel but it seems to me that you would have to somehow hold the reel down (with feet I guess?) and turn the reel with one hand. If the snake is fully extended, wouldn't that be kind of hard to wind with one arm? I don't know for sure but the way I do it now is simple, fast, and I think better for the snake.
Jim
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| Re: To reel or not to reel? [message #321958 is a reply to message #321905 ] |
Mon, 12 May 2008 09:34 |
Jamin Lynch
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I wasn't a big fan of reel snakes until I used one a few times. The only thing I still don't like is the size of the case (if you get a case). The reel keeps things nice and neat, if you roll it up properly.
You may also want to look at the new 32X8 with monitor split outs or the 32X12. Should come in handy one day.
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| Re: To reel or not to reel? [message #321965 is a reply to message #321905 ] |
Mon, 12 May 2008 09:58 |
Tim Tyler
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Evan -
When I got my LS9, I figured I needed 12 returns, so I called Mark at Audiopile, and he just happened to have one 32x12x150 on a reel that he said he was considering stocking. I bought it and the rolling pullover case he reccommended for it, and have been quite happy. I'm no fan of mic cables on a reel, but the reel has made handling the snake much easier than trying to coil it into a box. (at least for snakes this size or smaller...) The snake stays untwisted and has been in good shape longer than my previous snakes.
Depending on your need for channels & returns, a 32x8 might be ok, with a few turnarounds to add unused mic channels to the returns count. Definitely get a case.
-Tim T
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| Re: To reel or not to reel? [message #321988 is a reply to message #321907 ] |
Mon, 12 May 2008 11:19 |
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Adam Robinson
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| Jason Dermer wrote on Sun, 11 May 2008 23:53 |
Evan,
I'm not a big fan of reel snakes, likely because most of the ones that I have come across are of the MI variety, and I have to see one with a split. (excepting those built by companies to keep their separated multicore on) Does EWI/Audiopile make a great bang for the buck snake? Yes, but you are on the way up in this business and a 32/8/150 is going to "fill up" and become too short really quick. Going with the buy once, cry once theory, I would look into a 48/8/ at least 200' with a split and mults, or possibly one of the new digital solutions. You'll then have a snake that can stay with you for years to come instead of one that will get you by for a year.
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| Re: To reel or not to reel? [message #321998 is a reply to message #321988 ] |
Mon, 12 May 2008 11:49 |
A Thomas Lamb
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I have a 250' whirlwind 58 pair on a reel and I love it but when rolling it in you have to have someone hold the reel while you reel it otherwise the reel runs across the floor. Soon we will be ditching the reel though because if you want to combine a power run with it reeling it up just doesn't work well. So its going in a trunk!
Thomas Lamb
A1 Orlando Production
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| Re: To reel or not to reel? [message #321999 is a reply to message #321905 ] |
Mon, 12 May 2008 11:59 |
Tom Bourke
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I have not used the EWI snake so no comment on reel or not. So far I just over under or figure 8 into a plastic tote or for larger snakes a bin with slots on each end so I can leave the extra in the bin.
I will say the best thing I did when getting a new snake for work was to get a 250 ft when a 100 ft gets me to the stage. This way I can rout the snake well out of the way. Also when I need all my inputs on the opposite side of the stage from the snake run I can do it no problem.
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| Re: To reel or not to reel? [message #322001 is a reply to message #321983 ] |
Mon, 12 May 2008 12:02 |
Jamin Lynch
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One thing you need to make sure of if you get a reel snake is, make sure you have as much cable reeled out BEFORE you make your connections....it's no fun having to disconnect and reconnect everything for an extra couple of feet more snake.
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