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| Exciters, Enhancers, and Similar Products [message #276591 is a reply to message #274251 ] |
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Andy Peters
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Another FAQ:
Q: "I'm thinking about getting an Aural Exciter (or similar product). What do you all think?"
A1: "Don't bother. They all suck. Spend the money on another microphone."
A2: "Never use these things across the main outputs. They might be useful as on an individual channel insert. But you're better off spending the money on another microphone."
-a
[Updated on: Wed, 13 February 2008 11:32] by Moderator
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| Setting Limiters to Protect Speakers [message #277467 is a reply to message #274251 ] |
Mon, 31 December 2007 12:39 |
 SteveKirby
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Another excellent thread on setting limiters for the power capacity of the speakers, including the math for working it out from both amplifier power or fixed gain amps:
http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/218674/23615/0// /17922/#msg_218674
This was listed on a thread about bi-amping. Bunches of newbs have asked about setting limiter thresholds and there is usually a response about either setting to prevent amp clipping (which technique is described in the study hall although largely obviated by built in soft-clipping limiters built into modern amps) or a comment about setting it to protect the speakers, but with no guidance about how to do that. Thank you Ryan Jenkins for this very clear response.
[Updated on: Wed, 13 February 2008 11:35] by Moderator
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| Re: Exciters, Enhancers, and Similar Products [message #332654 is a reply to message #276591 ] |
Wed, 18 June 2008 10:47 |
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| Andy Peters wrote on Fri, 28 December 2007 13:18 |
Another FAQ:
Q: "I'm thinking about getting an Aural Exciter (or similar product). What do you all think?"
A1: "Don't bother. They all suck. Spend the money on another microphone."
A2: "Never use these things across the main outputs. They might be useful as on an individual channel insert. But you're better off spending the money on another microphone."
-a
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They belong in a studio, if anywhere.
A band hired me to mix their set on another person's PA in a night club.
The guy had a nice system in general, but he used some kind of exciter over the mains.
I switched it in and out a few times, then I made a small EQ change on his 1/3-octave EQ and asked if it sounded the same as his exciter.
He said yes, while scratching his head.
Too Tall
Curtis H. List
Bridgeport, Mich.
I.A.T.S.E. Local # 274 (Gold Card)
Lansing, Mich
Independent Live Sound Engineer (and I'm Tall Too!)
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| Re: Live Sound Newbie FAQ [message #332721 is a reply to message #274251 ] |
Wed, 18 June 2008 13:12 |
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Can someone find and link to any of the threads regarding "why subwoofers create a power alley, how cardioid subwoofers work, and why it always sucks when I stack my subwoofers left and right, but sometimes not indoors, or on a tuesday"?
-- Bennett Prescott
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EONA ADRaudio d.o.o.
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An amateur practices until they get it right. A professional practices until they can't get it wrong.
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| Guide to "How Much Power" [message #335594 is a reply to message #274251 ] |
Fri, 27 June 2008 22:57 |
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Tony "T" Tissot
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I find this a very simple, and informative discussion about amp sizing questions. - Particularly the link to the Peavey tech. note.
http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php/m/335411/35327/0// /15490/#msg_335411
You'll learn - under-powering is not the culprit for driver damage. Expecting "Champagne" results from a "Beer" budget is.
My favorite quote: "Inexperienced operators often try to use a system that just doesn't have enough power (speakers and amps and AC power) to do the job properly, not the power of the speakers themselves. This results in pushing the system way too hard and making failures more common."
ProSoundWeb - Home of 50,000 audio professionals - and two or three curmudgeonly SOBs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdGrvXykjDU
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