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What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314246]

Sat, 19 April 2008 14:58

Daniel Ellis is currently offline

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I just want to know who on here is a fan of the Countryman E6 headworn mic and who isn't?

Just about everybody I talk to about a headworn mic says get a countryman.. Well I've been on a tour for a couple of months now where 2 guys have the E6, and 2 other guys have the Shure Beta53, and the Shure blows the Countryman away soundwise.

In my opinion the Shure is about 10 times better.. Is it just my situation? I seem to be the only one who doesn't like Countryman.

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314250 is a reply to message #314246 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 15:11

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I can't speak to that particular situation, but so what if you're the only one that doesn't like the E6? If the Shure works for you and your clients are happy, and you're gettin' chicks (okay, 2 outta 3 ain't never bad.... Very Happy

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I developed the mindset a long that I didn't care if I was the only guy on the planet to use a particular piece of gear, if I liked it and it worked, so be it. But all the while, keeping an open mind about it.

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314255 is a reply to message #314246 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 15:24

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We have both at the church that I work at and I like both.

They both sound good to me (I do think the Beta53 sounds better though).

The big difference for use is size. The Beta53 is big and bulky while the E6 hides very nicely on camera. Thats the main reason we like the E6 better.

Dave Barto
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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314259 is a reply to message #314255 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 15:40

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Yea the countryman definitely looks better.

Anyone know of a mic that sounds more like the Beta53 and looks like the Countryman?

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314263 is a reply to message #314246 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 15:46

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In my case the E6/E6i is an "upgrade" vs. a lav for speaking & short-term theatrical-style events where greater GBF is required.

"If I can't change the people around me, I'll change the people around me"
- Chuck D.

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314265 is a reply to message #314259 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 15:51

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DPA has several that use the dual ear method of mounting so they are more stable than the countryman along with an excellent "sounding" mic.

Price may be an issue however-they are a good bit more.

Can I have some more talent in the monitors--PLEASE?

Ivan Beaver
dB Audio & Video Inc.

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314327 is a reply to message #314265 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 19:35

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I dont mind the Countryman E6, I am using 12 in a theatre show, but I am a huge fan of the DPA 4066 and DPA 4088, I am demoing a couple during the show and there is a day and night difference between the countryman and dpa.

Steven Barnes
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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314332 is a reply to message #314246 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 19:57

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While the behind the head dual over the ear headpiece is more stable many CEO executive types would not even think of putting it on their head. The E6 is about as far as they'll go to wearing a mic on their head. The Audio Technica 892 sounds and looks like an E6 mic but has a different ear loop that does not work as well on some peoples ears as the full loop on an E6.

Mike Caldwell

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314350 is a reply to message #314332 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 21:57

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For talking head gigs, E6's is what we use... have a hard time getting someone to put a garth brooks looking mic on when they're doing a presentation. E6, no questions asked. besides if they have to worry about breaking it.

If it works for the application, use it. Musical theatre, the E6 and DPA's are king IMHO along with head mics, ie B3's and MKE2's

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314353 is a reply to message #314350 ]

Sat, 19 April 2008 22:11

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I have some gigs where I am using up to 10 headsets at once on stage. We use the E6 99% of the time. There are some cases where the DPA is used because of it's tight fit. It has gotten to the point where most national speakers are just expecting the E6 cause it's what their use to. I'm just glad that lapel mics are no longer an option. Believe it or not, I have had someone request the lapel... I just said no. (Lapels work for a broadcast feed, but not live sound)

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314715 is a reply to message #314246 ]

Mon, 21 April 2008 11:21

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I use a DPA 4088 on my "money channel". It's a huge improvement over the e6 in sound quality and fit. With the dual-ear headband the mic never swings out from the head so placement remains much more precise and my GBF is much better than with the E6. I also like how the mic isn't part of the headband, so unlike the e6, if you need to adjust the ear fit it doesn't impact the mic. If I could afford to replace all the e6's with DPA 4066's and 4088's I'd do it in a moment only keeping a couple e6's arround for the odd situations where I can't get the DPA to fit.

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? - Compared to.. [message #314736 is a reply to message #314246 ]

Mon, 21 April 2008 12:08

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Daniel Ellis wrote on Sat, 19 April 2008 15:58

I just want to know who on here is a fan of the Countryman E6 headworn mic and who isn't?

Just about everybody I talk to about a headworn mic says get a countryman..

I seem to be the only one who doesn't like Countryman.

Well, when compared to the countless Lavs that E6's have replaced.. they are worlds apart better.. Very Happy

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As far as the sound quality, I have usually been able to get even the worst voice decent using a strip EQ with swept mid's.
The only time I don't like the E6 is when you have it on a LOUD drummer doing backup vocals.. Mad

Mad

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314790 is a reply to message #314327 ]

Mon, 21 April 2008 15:12

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I use mostly E6s for musical theater but they seem to break easily with some of the choreography. I'd love to demo some DPA gear, I'm told they are more robust than the E6. Who would I have to talk to about that?

-Aaron Siebert

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314803 is a reply to message #314246 ]

Mon, 21 April 2008 15:38

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I have really only used the E6 so that is all I can comment on. I have mainly used them in theatrical productions with actors ranging from kids to adults. They always seem to do a good job for me regardless of who I put them on. If you are worried about the durability of the E6 and its cable you can upgrade to a thicker cable. The thicker cable for the E6 is more along the lines of the B3 cable. As far as I know this does not really change the cost and it has helped reduce the number of broken cables greatly.

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314888 is a reply to message #314803 ]

Mon, 21 April 2008 19:32

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It makes the Old Testament sound less threatening. Very Happy

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Re: What's so great about Countryman E6?? [message #314901 is a reply to message #314246 ]

Mon, 21 April 2008 20:04

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There is a optional band for the e6 now that makes it go around the back of your head. Seems to work well, but I've only had it a couple weeks. Although I dig the mics, what I don't like about the DPA is the price of the adapters to go from their microdot to whatever wireless system you happen to be using. $87 list to use a TA4F seems a little excessive- Too bad having a soldering iron in my hands is so dangerous : )

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