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| Re: Writing about the history you know [message #303801 is a reply to message #303787 ] |
Tue, 18 March 2008 14:12   |
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John Roberts {JR} Messages: 7155 Registered: April 2004 Location: MS |
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I seem to recall a commercial product from him. A single ended NR sold by Burwen in early '70s (IIRC?). It was too expensive for consumer use but predated later cheaper systems by several years.
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Another big name conspicuously missing is Amar Bose... While it may not be clear which category he belongs in, (Acoustic, Electronic, Marketing?) success on that scale deserves some notice.
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Modern power amp guys, Pat Quilter, Jack Sondermeyer, Gerald Stanley, etc.. list is much longer than that.
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TD, Gunness, and a bunch more to put on speaker list...
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Hopefully corporate websites will do some historical documentation for posterity.
JR
https://www.resotune.com/
"A bus in a console is spelled with one 's', but you can buss your girlfriend while riding in a bus."
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| Re: AES Historical Committee [message #303830 is a reply to message #302144 ] |
Tue, 18 March 2008 15:45   |
Mike {AB} Butler Messages: 1833 Registered: April 2004 Location: Lynchburg, VA |
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Bink,
On your Ampex list, you forgot Harold Lindsay, founder of modern magnetic recording, Emilar, and general all-around great accoustician..
SM4.. used an awful lot of those on gigs. Hey, they just needed something more than 100W / ch to wake them up.. haha.. Nice sounding, though!
Regards,
Mike Butler
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| Ampex History Project [message #303839 is a reply to message #303830 ] |
Tue, 18 March 2008 16:12   |
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Michael 'Bink' Knowles Messages: 3971 Registered: April 2004 Location: Oakland, CA |
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| Mike {AB} Butler wrote on Tue, 18 March 2008 13:45 | Bink,
On your Ampex list, you forgot Harold Lindsay, founder of modern magnetic recording, Emilar, and general all-around great accoustician..
SM4.. used an awful lot of those on gigs. Hey, they just needed something more than 100W / ch to wake them up.. haha.. Nice sounding, though!
Regards,
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Man, you could write down some of your Ampex stories! Flesh out details to include the things you saw. Get in touch with AES Historical Society Ampex History Project. Larry Miller's the guy to contact.
Thanks for the name drop! On my own I don't have much hope of figuring out all the who's whos of sound.
-Bink
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| Re: Historical audio engineers [message #303898 is a reply to message #303790 ] |
Tue, 18 March 2008 18:47   |
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Michael 'Bink' Knowles Messages: 3971 Registered: April 2004 Location: Oakland, CA |
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| Jake Scudder wrote on Tue, 18 March 2008 11:47 | Abe has his book that is being released officially at USITT, I believe. Judging from the pictures and stories he was sharing and sorting through late last year I assume it will have a lot of historical information, not only about himself, but about McCune, Meyer, etc.
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Sign me up for a copy.
I've got Harry McCune stories of my own but not Harry McCune, Sr.--he passed before my five years at the company.
McCune used a bunch of amps including Haflers, Crests, BGWs and Carvers. Hopefully Abe will have something on Brian G. Wachner of BGW. I read on DIYAudio that Wachner was the kind of patriotic guy who would only design with parts made within his country (USA). He'd be pretty stymied trying to sustain that commitment today.
-Bink
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| Re: Historical audio engineers [message #305018 is a reply to message #304985 ] |
Fri, 21 March 2008 22:13   |
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Lee Brenkman Messages: 905 Registered: April 2004 Location: Oakland CA |
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| John Roberts {JR} wrote on Fri, 21 March 2008 17:44 |
| Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Fri, 21 March 2008 19:13 |
| Art Welter wrote on Thu, 20 March 2008 20:25 | Got to use a Stanel system in Kearny Nebraska in 1978 using aux-fed subs, don't know for sure if Stan was the first to use them, but they had the concept well sorted out at that time, 30 years ago.
Helped that he already had a prototype Yamaha PM-2000, while many of the rest of us were slogging along on PM-1000s or the like with only 2 aux sends.
Art Welter
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What was Stan's full name? I can't seem to find out in an online search.
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perhaps this stan?
http://www.prosoundweb.com/live/articles/diamond/stan.shtml
JR
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Yep that's the guy.
As early as the late 60s Stan Miller and Stanal sound had re packaged their Altec Voice of the Theater components into boxes that set up fast, mounted on tripod stands, held up on the road and sounded pretty darn good for those times.
It was while playing a gig in the Great Plains region that Neil Diamond first encountered Stan, and the rest is as they say, history...
"if you can't hear Freddie Green, you're playing too loud"...Count Basie
"I'd like the monitors to sound like they've got chapped lips"...Tom Waits
"Grandescunt Aucta Labore"
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| Re: Historical audio engineers [message #305775 is a reply to message #304985 ] |
Mon, 24 March 2008 15:19   |
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Jake Scudder Messages: 1055 Registered: December 2005 Location: New York, NY |
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| John Roberts {JR} wrote on Fri, 21 March 2008 18:44 |
| Michael 'Bink' Knowles wrote on Fri, 21 March 2008 19:13 |
| Art Welter wrote on Thu, 20 March 2008 20:25 | Got to use a Stanel system in Kearny Nebraska in 1978 using aux-fed subs, don't know for sure if Stan was the first to use them, but they had the concept well sorted out at that time, 30 years ago.
Helped that he already had a prototype Yamaha PM-2000, while many of the rest of us were slogging along on PM-1000s or the like with only 2 aux sends.
Art Welter
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What was Stan's full name? I can't seem to find out in an online search.
-Bink
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perhaps this stan?
http://www.prosoundweb.com/live/articles/diamond/stan.shtml
JR
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We played the tiny PAC in Big Bear Lake, CA a couple months ago. I asked if he ever came around and they said he was involved in getting them going but not around too much. The only trace was a stanchion holding open the stage door stenciled with "Neil Diamond Tour".
http://www.jakescudder.com
480.262.7742
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| Re: Historical audio engineers [message #305829 is a reply to message #305808 ] |
Mon, 24 March 2008 17:52   |
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John Roberts {JR} Messages: 7155 Registered: April 2004 Location: MS |
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| Brad Nelson wrote on Mon, 24 March 2008 16:44 | Thats not surprising. Stan has a thriving bed and breakfast resort in Big Bear. He really prefers his privacy when he is "off the road" so you usually don't hear too much from him, unless Neil Diamond is out touring. It would be great if Bink or someone could sit down with him sometime and do an extensive interview about the history of live audio, and his many contributions. I'd love to hear the stories of how he came up with, the first monitor rig. flying his speaker cabinets for the first time, and more recently his input on digital mixers. {Yamaha in particular} A friend reminded me the other day that he was the first to put together a digital mixing system based around the Yamaha Promix O1. Rumour has it that Neal may be going out on tour again and if he does it will be interesting to see what Stan decides to try this time out. Best regards Brad.
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That's a good idea but I'm not so comfortable volunteering more of Bink's time.
Here's another thought... How about we task Mark Herman with maybe arranging for the interview. It seems like a good fit. Maybe do a series of interviews with under appreciated sound pioneers. He could publish the interviews in his magazine.
Another possibility is bring back the moderated chat format, that was used several times in the past. We would even get to submit the questions. The results of this chat could be edited and published by Mark, if interesting enough.
JR
PS: Speaking of pioneers William F. Ludwig II, RIP. 1917-2008. Not SR but definitely S.
https://www.resotune.com/
"A bus in a console is spelled with one 's', but you can buss your girlfriend while riding in a bus."
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