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| Re: Roland/RSS V-Mixing System [message #262718 is a reply to message #253748 ] |
Sun, 11 November 2007 22:49   |
 Tom Boisseau
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I saw the Roland M-400 V-Mixing System (as they are calling their new digital console) at the WFX conferance in Atlanta a couple weeks ago.
I was very impressed with the features verses the price. That being said, it is NOT as flexible as I would need it to be.
To begin with, there are only 8 inputs and 8 outputs on the console itself. All other ins and outs must be accomplished by using their digital snake. Additionally, it is a TOTALLY closed system. There are no card or expansion slots of any type, so you are pretty limited as far "add ons" are concerned. Something else they fail to mention in the liturature is that the second bank of 24 channels has NO processing such as limiters or compressors and because their are no expansion capabilities, it is doubtfull you will ever be able to add them
Roland's digital snake looks WONDERFUL! I hope they come out with a MY card for the Yamaha digital consoles. The new "stage box" design with the ability to put up to three 16x8 boxes at various locations on the stage is VERY desirable. The pricing seems fair as well. They do however need to come up with a way to prevent the power cable from becoming detached. Presently it is nothing more than just an IEC power cable with no way to lock it to prevent accidental unplugging. I suppose you could just "tie it off" to the stage box.
My impression was that this is a "rock and roll" board and well suited for it! I however do some rock and roll, lots of corporate, lots of broadcast. Sometimes I need to do three way splits on the stage and sometimes at FOH. Sometimes I'm setting the console in places where snakes are already run, and sometimes I need lots of inputs right at FOH for multiple VTR's, CD, Cassette, Minidisk, DVD, etc. So while I think the Roland is a terrific achievement (for the money) with lots of great features, it should work great for MANY, but it is not for me.
Tom
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| Re: Roland/RSS V-Mixing System [message #280085 is a reply to message #250599 ] |
Tue, 08 January 2008 15:50 |
gordon mcgregor
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Sorry to bump this up to the top again but I got a serious look at one of these along with a friend who has just bought one. we are both quite extensive users of the old VM7200 systems so we are used to Roland's ways etc, the present system stikes me as a competitor for the LS9 and TT24, as a straight to stereo from up to 48 inputs its fine, only 24 gates/comps etc. but for most things you can get there with that I think. If you want to use it for zoned systems then your going to have to use auxes and there seems no easy way out of this, it appears you can send these to any box on the network however so if you were to buy a modular box with outs only you could install that in you amp room or rack and leave the patching to the screen on the console.
The actual sound of the unit is fine -at least as good as any of the Yammies, I've never used a Mackie so no comparison, one neat touch is the manual is on board so you can click on help and see what you've done wrong this time on the screen. Gordon
No Madam I'm not your usual Gasfitter
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| Re: Roland/RSS V-Mixing System [message #318013 is a reply to message #280085 ] |
Wed, 30 April 2008 09:20 |
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| gordon mcgregor wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 16:50 |
only 24 gates/comps etc.
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is that gate plus comps for a total of 24... or is that 24 channels of gates and comps.
this way:
8 gate and 16 comps = 24 gates/comps
OR this way
24 gated compressed channels
I have my own domain name now: www.mattvivslivesound.com
I'm located in Southern MD.
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| Re: Roland/RSS V-Mixing System [message #318480 is a reply to message #318013 ] |
Thu, 01 May 2008 15:19 |
gordon mcgregor
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Registered: June 2004
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Matt its channels 1-24 only and you can use both gates and compressors on each channel, this to me is the biggest problem with this desk when you compare it with its competition and I don't see any way out coming soon.
The Sonar package is out now and I'll let you know how it goes when I see it work on one of the local guy's desk, it does look good on paper, though to record a full 48 channels requires a fairly heavy duty computer/storage system.
As an aside I think that Roland have done well with their RSS and Edirol brands and I wish them well I've used the VM mixer and VS recorders now for 10 years or so both owning my own and using other peoples and have only seen 1 failure that was a hardware issue other than a hard drive on a recorder ( the software was sometimes limited and there were loads of updates at first). I see no reason for the new gear to be any worse indeed it should be better as it is using more standard electronics rather than custom stuff. Gordon
No Madam I'm not your usual Gasfitter
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| Re: Roland/RSS V-Mixing System [message #329414 is a reply to message #322164 ] |
Fri, 06 June 2008 22:13 |
Tim Tyler
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Registered: August 2004
Location: Richmond, Va |
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Silas -
A few questions about your Roland M400 system -(using the 1608 stage boxes, I assume...)
-are the physical xlr ports assignable to more than 1 channel? (ie - split for monitors channels)
-where do you return your effects?
-problems running cat5 cable?
-dca performance?
-sound quality, eq response?
Are you doing anything with the Sonar multitrack computer recording?
Any general observations you care to make?
Thanks for your time!
-Tim T
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