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| Re: Peavey Versarray-Observations from OzzFest [message #248108 is a reply to message #247720 ] |
Fri, 21 September 2007 08:50   |
 Kurt Jeske
Messages: 35
Registered: April 2004
Location: Green Bay, WI USA |
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They should put a sub floor in the pit and use it for seating when the pit is not being used as a pit. How often does the pit get used? Probably once a year for the musical like most schools.
[Updated on: Fri, 21 September 2007 08:51]
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| Re: Peavey Versarray - Troubleshooting note [message #248397 is a reply to message #215413 ] |
Sat, 22 September 2007 18:55 |
John Chiara
Messages: 1295
Registered: April 2004
Location: Troy, NY |
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It came to my attention when I had a box go out..ribbons..that in 16 ohm mode the 2 drivers are in series..meaning that if one goes out the other does too..kind of like the old Christmas Tree light hunt...made finding the problem pretty frustrating.
"mix is a verb, not a noun"
John A. Chiara aka. Blind Johnny
Albany Audio Associates Inc.
Troy, NY
518-961-0069 - cell
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| Re: Peavey Versarray - Troubleshooting note [message #249933 is a reply to message #248781 ] |
Thu, 27 September 2007 23:47 |
Don Lanier
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Registered: April 2004
Location: Godfrey, I |
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Im sorry Ive been unable to get in here sooner but we have been very busy, a couple things, FIRST, Our seminar was a difficult thing to pull off, we had to take my road gear and lots of new gear and then create a laboratory, a lab for demos of the science of sound, it was difficult and believe me we all worked very hard to make these demonstrations relevant. Some folks only wanted to see MIXERS, Some only wanted to see the Versarray, etc.
Marty has a Classroom in Meridian thats normally used for these seminars and we moved all his gear, meters,scope, demo gear etc into this space and set it up. Some folks didnt like all the science But I feel if you want to learn this business you dont start in the middle, you begin at Magnetism and Ohms Law, again some felt this was below them but many who attended wrote and said they learned allot from it. Some of the things we had difficulty with were just so crazy and I always say if Mr Murphy wants to make you look like a boob he will, now frankly I think many folks here know Marty McCann and he is far from that. I believe hes one of the smartest guys on the block and thats all Im gonna say about that. If I had my druthers I would have gotten another day for the setup but the School just couldnt give us that and we did the best we could with the issues as they unfolded. As far as the Powerpoint goes, its a teaching tool, a simple display its not meant to dazzle you with a million colors and vivid techno BS, Ive seen this Powerpoint many times and it does whats needed, its a talking point that Marty uses to teach beginners and advanced guys, no more no less.
The Line array wasnt represented well in this space, as Tom says he fills the room with sound using Speakers on sticks, and as soon as we got the system up we knew we could not expect a great representation, Short throw room, Highly reflective back wall.
Marty played some different cuts of music mostly with very wide dynamic range, But I think had he played some Van Halen loudly they would have had a better reference. We listened to some Bob Dylan Gospel cuts and some very interesting music that has to be as esoteric as it comes BUT the dynamic range of the music was full and vibrant and I think thats what he was trying to get across.
The system as it sat has 6 tops and one sub per side ,I operate the Concert version of this PA with 4 Versasubs per side under 6 tops and it sounds great, clean and powerful, Im not using a bunch of bridged amps as it just doesnt need that, I use 4080s for subs, 4000's for mids and 1400's for ribbons. I use the VSX 26 for my system but I am swapping to the Digitool MX within the month as it has the Connectivity and is interoperable with the Laptop and a Tablet.
One other thing is the system was FLAT AS A BOARD, there was no fancy EQ curve, no smily face no tricks, he set it and it was flat so imaging was just so full and clean to me, the bass wasnt weak, but some folks have to feel it yet it was full and with a single pair of Versasubs, These subs werent being driven anywhere near the capacity they are capable of but it was balanced, full and sounded great to me. Would I have enjoyed some SRV at a loud volume yes, but Marty is the instructor and you dont tell your mentor his choice of music was not appreciated by the class which by the way was a very broad cross section of Church, Production People, Sound Co, College guys, DJ's etc.
Anyway some times things dont go the way you like, we had so many different technical issues, a virus, PC Issues, Power issues,Gear that didnt make it,(I got several boxes of literature from dealers on the monday after the seminar) Gear that was broken etc...I definitely will break down the seminars to smaller feature rich versions covering separate systems and components, The point is we will continue to bring these seminars and refine the topics and improve them, that was a first time and it will get better and be more product specific, again this seminar is usually taught over three days and was severely compressed. I think if we do that again well do several topics and get more into the details of specific issues or product.
Anyway It was a first for us definetly not the last and well improve by your feedback and we hear you, thanks to all that came and we hope youll continue to be interested.
Were doing POCO in Alton, IL at the Block Party Sept 29th anybody wanting to hear the system outdoors come on downtown and enjoy Poco's 40th anniversary bash.
Don Lanier
Pearl Productions
http://www.pearlproaudio.com
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| Re: Peavey Versarray demo available in Maryland.. [message #256250 is a reply to message #217106 ] |
Sun, 21 October 2007 21:22 |
E. Lee Dickinson
Messages: 964
Registered: February 2007
Location: Richmond, VA |
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| Tom faderjockey Brandis wrote on Tue, 05 June 2007 15:21 |
I have an install of this system in a club just north of Baltimore. If anyone is interested in coming out one night to hear, let me know, you're more than welcome. Plus, I just took delivery of two more VR218's for the system.
Tom in Baltimore
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It just so happens I had an excuse to hear Tom's install this weekend. 
Tom's got a center cluster of, I believe, 6 tops. The bottom-most cabinet is well above the heads of the audience. On stage, he's got QW series as L/R. Finally, on the deck, the VR218 subs. He will have to remind me of the number of cabinets all around.. I was paying more attention to how they were hung and how they sounded.
Tom's got the mix set up with vocals in the center cluster and instruments in the L/R QWs. Aux fed subs. All of the above processed by a pair of Peavey's VSX DSPs.
This is a long room with a concrete floor and TVs along the walls. What most impressed me was the clarity of the vocals at the back of the space. Tom informs me that he spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to get the room to work with a pair of L/R arrays. I think his solution of center clustered vocals is spot on in the space. Very clear and articulate throughout the space.
The center cluster felt a little awkward up towards the front of the room. In the rear, there was a nice blend of L/R instruments with center vocals. The further towards the front, the more dissonant the two sounded.
My overall impression of the VR tops was quite good. I don't think too many people are going to be blowing ribbon drivers on indoor gigs, as these cabinets get nice and loud with lots of clarity.
I listened to a classic/southern rock set, and felt like the overall balance (vocals, instruments, subs) was quite good. I would have liked to pump some urban into it to see how the subs kept up. My instinct is that the center array would have outrun the subs, but there's no real factual base behind that thought. I'm quite certain that the manufacturer's pictures of 6 112s over a single 218 are not going to be a realistic configuration for live music.
In this long, live room, the center cluster line array was an excellent solution. Side traps would have been a muddy mess by the time you got to the back. The VRs maintained clarity to the rear, with plenty of loudness for the several hundred people in attendance. My daily drivers are JBL VRX. If I weren't heavily entrenched with lots of cross renting, I'd have given the PVs a serious look. Having finally heard them this weekend, I can say that they are a very capable box. At this price point, it is a great entry-level array without an entry-level sound.
[Updated on: Sun, 21 October 2007 21:23]
E. Lee Dickinson
Advanced Visual Production Inc.
sound - lighting - video - design
www.avpric.com
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| Re: Peavey Versarray demo available in Maryland.. [message #256407 is a reply to message #256250 ] |
Mon, 22 October 2007 13:17 |
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Evan Kirkendall
Messages: 4844
Registered: November 2004
Location: Abingdon, MD |
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It do sound good.
VR112's:
They have a good throw, and are very smooth sounding. They dont have the "in your face" sound that Im used to, but they sound good. They lack the ultra crispy HF that I like, but those Ribbons do a decent job. They are MUCH better sounding then the JBL VRX boxes, and Im hoping to pick up some of them in 2009.
VR218:
Power hungry beasts. They've got a lot of ass and a good amount of punch, but it take a good amount of power to get them up and going. Tom has a GPS3500 bridged into each, and thats probably the min amount of power they should get. The subs got a decent thump going in the room, and did sound pretty good though. They have a lot of the same characteristics that the EAW SB1000z's have.
Evan
HarfordSound
ATL Tour Blog
"No, It's not too loud. You're just too old."
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