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| Re: Neutrik Silent Plug [message #187987 is a reply to message #187955 ] |
Mon, 12 February 2007 19:40   |
 Jon Smith
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Registered: March 2006
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I had four instrument cables made for me last July and have been using them ever since. They are great and I have had no problems with them. All my clients have really like them. Nice for those times when you are not on top of a player who a fast puller... A great addition to the cable box!
Jon
[Updated on: Mon, 12 February 2007 19:41]
My only real worry is they'll solve the problem just before I release my protest song
If you haven't seen the future, you haven't driven fast enough
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| Re: Neutrik Silent Plug [message #198917 is a reply to message #187987 ] |
Sun, 25 March 2007 08:28 |
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If I cared a little more, I would find a link to some 1/4" silent plugs that have a little volume control on them for acoustic acts. they were expensive, but no pops either (that is if you remember to turn it down befor unpluging).
How do you tell a genuine Stradivarius from a copy?
The real one burns with a blue flame.
-Dick Rees
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| Re: Neutrik Silent Plug [message #199031 is a reply to message #198917 ] |
Sun, 25 March 2007 18:25 |
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| Nick Aghababian wrote on Sun, 25 March 2007 09:28 |
If I cared a little more, I would find a link to some 1/4" silent plugs that have a little volume control on them for acoustic acts. they were expensive, but no pops either (that is if you remember to turn it down befor unpluging).
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Maybe it was one of these fitted with a Silent Plug™?
http://tinyurl.com/2bktnf
Philip LaDue
RFL
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| Re: Neutrik Silent Plug [message #199104 is a reply to message #199031 ] |
Mon, 26 March 2007 00:04 |
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| Phil LaDue wrote on Sun, 25 March 2007 19:25 |
| Nick Aghababian wrote on Sun, 25 March 2007 09:28 |
If I cared a little more, I would find a link to some 1/4" silent plugs that have a little volume control on them for acoustic acts. they were expensive, but no pops either (that is if you remember to turn it down befor unpluging).
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Maybe it was one of these fitted with a Silent Plug??
http://tinyurl.com/2bktnf
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Probably. It's been years since i've seen one, but I'm sure that has to be it because I don't see them often, so there must not be too many of them
How do you tell a genuine Stradivarius from a copy?
The real one burns with a blue flame.
-Dick Rees
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| Re: Neutrik Silent Plug [message #251747 is a reply to message #251686 ] |
Fri, 05 October 2007 10:51 |
Jeff Babcock
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Registered: September 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada |
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I love these cables too. Made up a whole bunch to have on hand. They work great. I did find that I had to use a hotter gun or otherwise they were a hair more tedious to solder, they seemed to direct heat away more quickly. That's very minor though.
Thanks to Bennett for bringing these to my attention!
Jeff
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| Re: Neutrik Silent Plug [message #285027 is a reply to message #166253 ] |
Tue, 22 January 2008 22:42 |
Mike Newberry
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I noticed several posts on this connector. Having used the simpler G&H 90 degree quiet plug, this seemed like a very nice engineering approach and an improvement, as the switch contacts were sealed for life. They also have a very well engineered cable retention strain relief which is the best I've seen.
I bought 5 of them from Mouser at about $10 each. I made up several cables for my band members and myself. So far, 4 of the 5 have failed in use. All have had light use and failed fairly quickly because the magnetic doughnut becomes stuck in the housing in the retracted (on)position.
This happens because the shaft body (electrical connection end) can move in the connector body while inserted into a guitar jack. Once the 90 degree alignment between the shaft and body is off a small amount the magnetic doughnut becomes stuck in the recess, where it retracts when inserted. Simply put they bend slightly and the magnet binds.
I am especially careful to loop my cable back over my strap to prevent accidentally pulling the cable or damaging the jack. Even this type of careful handling hasn't prevented the failure. Initially, I thought it may have been stepped on one and crushed the connector. But since I've been very careful with the rest, it's an aparent design problem. Yes, they can be bent back very carefully, but after use a couple of uses it's back to the same problem.
I sent several emails to Neutrik, but they have never answered one. Mouser on the other hand, replaced two of the connectors at no charge, but I had them beyond 90 days, which is all they warranty them, so the other 2 failed at my expense.
While this seemed like a very good idea, they don't hold up. I still think their cable retention and strain relief method is second to none, however.
I'm going back to the G&H Quiet Plug, which is about half the cost and I've never had one fail. They just have to be heat shrunk, to supplement the strain relief.
Mike
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| Re: Neutrik Silent Plug [message #285227 is a reply to message #285164 ] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 14:22 |
Jon Smith
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Registered: March 2006
Location: SLC, UT |
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| Karl Winkler wrote on Wed, 23 January 2008 09:39 |
Good input, Mike. I haven't noticed that problem but I also haven't used my cables very much. I haven't heard of this problem with the straight version - has anyone else?
-Karl
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Karl,
I have four cables with Neutrik plugs on both ends. They are almost two years old. I just last week had the first failure on one end. Going to my jobber today and see what they do for the fix, repair or replace & cost. I have really enjoyed them so and still do.
Jon
My only real worry is they'll solve the problem just before I release my protest song
If you haven't seen the future, you haven't driven fast enough
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| Re: Neutrik Silent Plug [message #306082 is a reply to message #285227 ] |
Tue, 25 March 2008 13:08 |
Jerry Turnbow
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Registered: April 2005
Location: Saint Louis, MO |
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I purchased five of these plugs and began retrofitting some existing instrument cables.
One of the plugs had an immediate failure - it would not mute. I suspect the reed switch itself may have come loose internally or something, but the supplier replaced it at no charge after consulting Neutrik.
A second one failed after not very much use when using it with a Taylor T5 hybrid guitar. This time, it failed in the muted condition. It was not a mechanical issue with the magnet "donut" reported above; it traveled back and forth fine. I suspect, perhaps, that the T5 switches power to the preamp using the typical "short ring to sleeve" method, and that the inrush of DC flowing through the tip-sleeve connnection on the plug probably "welded" the tiny contacts on the microswitch.
Thinking that to be the case, I took the connector and smacked it against a table top a few times to jar the contact loose, and sure enough, it opened up, and the cable has been working normally ever since. I any case, I always carry one or two spare cables (did that before the Silent Plug - it's just good practice.)
The other thing I noticed with the T5 is that when plugging in, there's still a "pop" somtimes, I suspect, due to the actual powering up of the preamp, as if there's a sizeable filter capacitor in the power supply circuit, which might also explain the "contact welding" issue.
I use one of the cables with my electric fiddle, which also has a preamp, and have never had either of these problems.
Bottom line is - I love the plugs, I think they're well-constructed, and they probably work great for passive instruments, and probably most active ones as well, but there may be a handful of devices that, due to the power-on circuitry, will still be problematic. In those cases, it may be possible to change the power circuit to use one of the 1/4" jacks that uses a plunger-operated set of contacts, instead of the common sleeve-to-ring connection, or maybe even incorporate a blocking diode to keep the tip side from passing DC while plugging in.
My $ .02
- Jerry Turnbow (aka 'Mako')
Owner - Sound on Site Audio Services
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